There are many similarities between the three parables which we're included in "Zen Parables" and "Existentialism" by Jean-Paul Sartre on how they see the world views. One similarity that i noticed both had was how in both they look at human behavior as a universal picture, not individually. For example our decisions also affect people around us, not just us; making us responsible for mankind. I think this way because Sartre says thing like, "Thus, our responsibility is much greater than we might have supposed, because it involves all mankind" and saying that every man should ask him self, "What would happen if everybody looked at things this way" meaning that we might think we don't affect mankind but we really are at the end; like asking yourself if it is okay for other people to do it even though your doing it yourself. I also saw this in "Learning To Be Silent" the boys promised each other that they will be silent for a whole week. When the first boy talked by accident all of them talked after him because they pointing out to him that he had talked. If the first boy wouldn't had talked then he wouldn't had gotten corrected; at the end they all talked and broke a promise showing how the first boy affected the three other boys making him responsible for them breaking there promises.
I couldn't really find any differences they both had the same idea saying how humans decisions/actions affects others also. The only difference i could say i found was very obvious the "Zen Parables" were composed of three separate mini stories which we're, "Muddy Road, A Parable, and Learning To Be Silent." They all informed us with different lessons such as living in the present, and just forgetting of what you believed in the past like Ediko believing that, "Monks don't go near females" saying that it is "dangerous"; looking at the bright side in the darkest situations like in "A Parable", and how everything we do there will be consequences like in "Learning To be Silent". "Existentialism" had all these ideas but in the format kind of like an informative article or of an essay because at the end it seems as a conclusion; he restates what he believed.
Tuesday, November 4, 2014
Comparison
The bigger picture in Jeans is that we choose how the future
will be affected. What we believe and so on will affect us all. “The man who
involves himself and who realizes that he is not only the person he chooses to
be, but also a lawmaker who is, at the same time, choosing all mankind as well
as himself, cannot help escape the feeling of his total and deep responsibility.”
Without rules we are nothing. If we do away with God then we make up our own
rules. We are affected to this day by religion and rules. We choose to live by them if we didn't choose to do so our future would be drastically different. and it most likely would affect a lot of people. In the Zen Parables “Muddy Road” and “Learning to be Silent” are both
about rules/choices that they made for themselves or others. “We monk don’t go
near females.” A rule places on himself and the promising to stay quiet
thing. “A Parable” is only similar
because he chose his path either be eaten there jump on a vine and be eaten
later. The four girls chose to not talk and the guy decided that he couldn’t go
near women because monks don’t. Choices we make affects not only us but those around us.
How they are not similar is well for starters ones a parable
and the other isn’t. there isn’t a bigger picture when it came to the parables
but with the other one there was a glimpse of a bigger picture that the author
wanted us to see. The examples in Jeans are more sad and more than slightly problematic. Such as choosing
to leave mother or not when you know she needs you and if something happened to
you it would end up killing her.
Comparison
There are numerous similarities and differences between the
several parables included in “Zen Parables” and “Existentialism” by Jean-Paul
Sartre on the topic of world views. Specifically in the way that both passages
look at human behavior while still thinking of the universe in the big picture
aspect, not so much specifically. One
similarity or connection occurs with Learning to Be Silent, Jean- Paul Sartre makes
the point that “man chooses his own self” but that in doing this we “also
choose all men”, meaning that when we choose to make a decision for ourselves
in the bigger picture our decision sets a precedent for everyone else around
us, making us responsible for all of mankind around us. Just like when the
first boy began talking he set an example for the other kids and in pointing
out his wrong doing all four of them ended up breaking their vow of silence. The
first boy chose himself which in turn affected the others making him
responsible for them too.
The biggest difference between the passages is the structure
of them and the way their ideas are presented. The Zen Parables was composed of
three separate stories that each taught a lesson independent of one another. The first Zen Parable, “Muddy Road” , teaches
the lesson of letting go of the past and living in the present, more
specifically inconsequential events. Ekido harbors confusion and negative
energy about Tanzan helping the young woman because “monks don’t go near
females”, and when he voices his opinion Tanzan replies “I left the girl there”
, meaning he has let the situation go, and poses the question of “are you still
carrying her?”, asking Ekido if he is still stuck in the past and silently
urging him to move on. “A Parable” moves
on to teach us the lessons of living in the moment and finding the silver
lining in every bad situation. The tigers represent the man`s future and past,
both chasing him and trying to consume his being but he catches “hold of the
root of a wild vine and swung himself down over the edge” suspending him in the
air (the man`s present). He realizes that eventually he will fall and one of
the tigers will consume him but rather than focus on his demise he grasps “ the
vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry with the other”, he found
something sweet in a time of despair. The last parable teaches us that
everything we do has consequences and sets the precedent for others around us
to follow suit. “Existenalism” was more of an essay and had his three separate ideas
presented in paragraph for and eventually tied them all together, making his
structure completely different from the Zen Parables.
Simalarities and differences
In
Zen Parables there are three stories. The first is about a two monk, one who
escorts a women across the street. The other monk says that monks should not
carry women. The first monk explains that his friend is the one carrying her in
his thoughts. The second story is about a man who is being chased by a tiger,
he then flees up a tree and when death is certain, he indulges himself with the
sweet taste of a strawberry. The third story is about how four monks, who have
made a vow in silence, breaks that silence with something as trivial as a
flickering lamp. The second story teaches us about how “Man is nothing else but
what he makes of himself” (Sartre). There also is a story of how a man must
make the choice to stay with his mother or leave to fight in the war to avenge
his brother, even if it mean his mother will wither into despair. The only similarity
in both the readings is that the choice that the monk makes to help the woman
and the decision of the man to leave his mother is a choice in character and in
a universal and that he must take responsibility for his actions. The
differences in the story however, are apparent. Each story in Zen Parables
teaches us a different lesson, the first being to not carry misdeeds in though.
The second being to know when to give up, and the third being to not be
bothered with trivial things. The second story has one universal message which
whether or not god exist, the choice and responsibilities lies with the man who
makes those choices.
Similarities and Differences
A similarity I was able to point out in both readings is
based on both readings having similar ideologies. In "Learning to be
Silent" from the Zen Parables, four pupils of the Tendai school promise to
one another that they will observe seven days of silence. By the time the lamps
began to get dimmer on the first night, one of the pupils spoke, and the others
followed suit in a sort of domino effect, each breaking their promise to the
others. In Existentialism by Jean-Paul Sartre he says "...when we say man
is responsible for himself, we do not only mean that he is responsible for his
own individuality, but that he is responsible for all men." Sartre's idea
of responsibility for all connects to the pupils in "Learning to be
Silent" because once one of them broke the promise to speak, the remaining
three proceeded to do the same. The first pupil spoke without the consideration
that he could also cause the others to falter. A concept that seems to be
apparent in both pieces is that even if one sole person doesn't intend for
their actions to directly influence anyone other than themselves it's
inevitable that it will in some way. It is important for man to be aware of his
actions because chances are they will directly affect those around them, at the
very least.
A difference I noticed in the Zen Parables and
Existentialism is the difference in intent by the authors. The authors of the
Zen Parables attempt to leave their writings up for interpretation. They could
be simple lessons about self-control, overcoming fear, and the importance of
silence, but it’s purely up to be interpreted by the reader themselves. Sartre’s
Existentialism however seems, to me, to be more persuasive. Almost like he's
trying to say believe what you want, but this way of belief is better. He tries
to slyly point out why his point of view makes sense. He says existentialism
"...declares that even if God did exist, that would change nothing."
In this he’s acknowledging that he sees the other side, but it’s pointless
because what he has to say makes more sense.
Similarities and Differences
Both
of the readings are similar in a way that each puts forth the idea of human
behavior in perspective to the universe as a whole. In Existentialism there is an example of a boy who is faced with a
choice “of leaving for England and joining the Free French forces leaving his
mother behind” or “remaining with his mother and helping her carry on” as he
was the only source of consolation. The boy had to choose one of the two
options if he chooses the first then his mother would be left alone to
circumstances that may not always be in her favor and if he chooses the second
then his brother’s vengeance would be incomplete. A similar situation is faced in
the parable Muddy Road by a monk
called Tanzan who is crossing a muddy road and sees a girl struggling to cross
the road. He too is faced with two choices: to help the girl cross the road by
carrying her or to just continue without bothering because “monks don’t go near
females because it is dangerous.” These situations are similar in that they
show that life is not always so straightforward there are times when the decision
is difficult to make. In the world there are always two choices either to go
with the known results or path or to discover new things by exploring something
that is unknown.
The
main difference between these two readings is that in the Zen Parables there are three explicit lessons. The first one being that
you should not live in the past you should live in the present. This is depicted
by when Tanzan tells Ekido “are you still carrying her,” this implies that
Ekido is still in the past (a monk should not go near women) grasping onto
something that he can easily let go. The second lesson is that you should live
in the moment. Even when the Buddha is stuck in a situation that can eventually
kill him (tiger knaw at vine saving him from being food) he decides to “grasp the
vine with one hand and pluck the strawberry with the other.” This implies that
the Buddha wasn’t really thinking about his future but currently living his present
to the best. The last lesson is that there is a domino effect present in human
nature; what one person does is followed even unconsciously by others. This is
shown when the first pupil asks the servant to “fix the lamps” that were growing
dim. As a result the rest of the pupils speak up either telling the first pupil
that they are “not supposed to talk”, complaining about the two pupils talking,
or claiming that “I am the only one who has not talked.” Whereas in Existentialism, Sartre explains three
terms: anguish, forlornness, and despair to explain his philosophy. He defines
anguish as “the man who involves himself and who realizes that he is not only
the person he chooses to be, but also a lawmaker who is, at the same time,
choosing all mankind as well as himself.” This in turn leads to the responsibility
of everything. Forlornness is defined as “god does not exist and that we have to
face all the consequences of this.” Basically it states that God should be
abolished. Lastly he defines despair as being bitterness. This philosophy takes
a more positive outlook than the parables’ lessons.
Comparison
As humans we try to understand the
divine or try to make sense of the larger universe that we live in. In the Zen Parables, three stories are told
with each sending a different message. The “Muddy Roads”, is the story of two
monks who are walking throw heavy rain and they come across a woman that is
having trouble because she cannot cross the muddy road. Because of this one of
the men (Tanzan) carries the woman across. Afterwards the fellow monk reminds
the other who helped the woman across the mud that “monks don’t go near females…”
as well as questions why Tanzan even did it. Similarly in Existentialism by Jean-Paul Sartre, he gives an example of a boy
given the choice to leave his mother in need or to join the Free French forces.
Sartre then states that the boy is deciding between two kinds of ethics, “an
ethics of sympathy, of personal devotion; on the other, a broader ethics, but
one whose efficacy was more dubious.” The concept of the two are similar
because both Tanzan and the boy were put in situations where they had to make a
choice, to follow what they believe to be instinctually right or to choose a
path that could lead to different possibilities.
Although the two readings share similarities they do share differences in how each one is perceived. Throughout the readings in Zen Parables a man’s actions all lead to a despair type ending. From the “Muddy Road”, the monk’s actions are influenced by the woman because she is in need of assistance so she can get across the mud which results him to disobey is teachings of staying away from women. In “A Parable” the man who will soon fall to his death is influenced by nature around him for example, the strawberry to find the good in a bad situation. As well as in the “Learning to be silent” reading where when one student spoke it lead to all of the fellow students into speaking which results in the failure in understanding meditation. These examples are how the actions of man lead them to anguish. However in Existentialism, Sartre states that existentialism is a more optimistic view point, it includes sayings like, “Conquer yourself rather than the world” and “nothing ventured nothing gained”. Therefore the ideas in the Zen Parables take a negative approach while the Existentialism article takes a more optimistic approach.
Although the two readings share similarities they do share differences in how each one is perceived. Throughout the readings in Zen Parables a man’s actions all lead to a despair type ending. From the “Muddy Road”, the monk’s actions are influenced by the woman because she is in need of assistance so she can get across the mud which results him to disobey is teachings of staying away from women. In “A Parable” the man who will soon fall to his death is influenced by nature around him for example, the strawberry to find the good in a bad situation. As well as in the “Learning to be silent” reading where when one student spoke it lead to all of the fellow students into speaking which results in the failure in understanding meditation. These examples are how the actions of man lead them to anguish. However in Existentialism, Sartre states that existentialism is a more optimistic view point, it includes sayings like, “Conquer yourself rather than the world” and “nothing ventured nothing gained”. Therefore the ideas in the Zen Parables take a negative approach while the Existentialism article takes a more optimistic approach.
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